From spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu Sun Apr 17 23:05:07 1994 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil t nil nil] ["4411" "Sun" "17" "April" "1994" "23:10:04" "edt" "spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu" "spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu" #("<9404180310.AA08662@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu>" 0 43 (face default)) "119" "[defense fund for Paul Zimmerman & PGP encryption program]" "^From:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu by medg (4.1/TOC-1.2S) id AA11472; Sun, 17 Apr 94 23:05:06 EDT Received: from goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Sun, 17 Apr 94 23:10:08 -0400 Received: by goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu (15.11/4.0) id ; Sun, 17 Apr 94 23:10:04 edt Message-Id: <9404180310.AA08662@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: mpf@medg.lcs.mit.edu Cc: spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: [defense fund for Paul Zimmerman & PGP encryption program] Date: Sun, 17 Apr 94 23:10:04 edt Please forward to any appropriate places, please... [headers stripped] -------- Forwarded Message -------- FROM: Steve Van Natta, 72674,1134 DATE: 15-Apr-94 at 18:41:06 SUBJECT: note to all... Hey folks, I just got off the phone with Phil Zimmerman. The word is this: ViaCrypt licensed PGP from Phil and Public Key Partners. Public Key Partners didn't want to license the RSA algorithm to Phil, and so he decided that he had to ally himself with a company that already had licensing of the product and would be willing to Market it for him. Enter ViaCrypt. They now hold exclusive license of Phil's PGP program as well as a previous RSA license from Public Key Partners. Phil said, "it is very important that ViaCrypt survive, because the govt. doesn't want it to survive, and neither does Public Key Partners. Why? Because they're in bed together." Phil also informed me that it will be some time until he sees royalties from ViaCrypt because they are recouping their initial launch costs from him first. All the more reason to cough and get registered. More importantly however is to help Phil. He hasn't been indicted yet but he is under criminal investigation and has been for the past several months. He has a defense fund that you can write to - its also o.k. if you pass around the hat he says...he needs all the help he can get. The story is this - and important to all free thinking individuals, especially those of us that wish to publish anything of any nature, especially electronic in nature. Its important to anyone that likes to be able to freely use public networks as well. paraphrasing here... U.S. Customs has apparently informed him that he is under investigation because he "published materials that were not fit for Export and it has since been widely distributed overseas." Phil informed them that he didn't export anything overseas himself - they said, "you published it, it got there, same thing..." If you're interested in helping you can send a donation to Phil's legal defense fund: Phil Dubois 2305 Broadway Boulder, CO 80304 Anyway, if you're interested in getting a licensed copy of the thing its like 99.98 for 1. I ordered the DOS version and it runs fine with pre-generated keys. There is some additional code and text messages introduced like "key accepted please wait..." while it decrypts etc... and they're calling it 2.4 That's about the only difference - plus you're registered, legal of course...info. - upgradges etc...and you help the cause. Again, it is important that ViaCrypt survive as a product. To Order: 1-800-536-2664 Viacrypt 2104 West Peoria Avenue Phoenix, AZ 85029 Tel. 602-944-0773 Fax 602-943-2601 Bulk rates are listed below so if we get a bunch of people that want to get the software - I'll order them in bulk through One World and pass the savings on to you. I explained the WorkGroup situation and they're happy to order em up for us...spread the word... Van [please send your order request to Steve Van Natta at: 72674.1134@CompuServe.COM ] Prices quoted to me on 4-14-1994 DOS version: 1 copy - 99.98 5 copies - 299.98 [$60 each] 20 copies - 824.98 50-1000 would be 40.00 extra for every user over 49... WinCim version is: 1 copy - 119.98 5 copies - 359.98 [$60 each] 20 copies - 989.98 50-1000 would require a special quote New Unix version: 1 copy - 149.98 5 copies - 449.98 larger orders need to be quoted here as well... FINAL NOTE: Corporate espionage is at an all time high. If you want to discuss sensitive material with me concerning the Network, or anything business related at all, I suggest that you request a copy of my public key and encrypt all sensitive material to me. Friendly, non-sensitive correspondence is still welcome, however, if you expect sensitive answers - get ViaCrypt PGP and generate a key. I will then respond to you encrypting with your key. (the documentation is pretty self explanatory) I also understand that regular PGP is all over Europe, the reason for the investigation on Phil, and hence has now become a worldwide standard...so if you download anything later than PGP 1.0 its compatible with everything else including ViaCrypt. Take care...more to follow (hopefully by tomorrow) on who'se been selected for the Core Group. Individual agreements can be discussed, but I think that the document should speak for itself. From spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu Mon Apr 18 13:35:35 1994 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] ["1415" #("Mon" 0 3 (face default)) #("18" 0 2 (face default)) "April" #("1994" 0 2 nil 2 4 (face default)) #("13:40:26" 0 8 (face default)) #("edt" 0 3 (face default)) #("spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu" 0 21 (face highlight)) #("spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu" 0 21 (face highlight)) #("<9404181740.AA14071@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu>" 0 43 (face default)) "30" #("[defense fund for Paul Zimmerman & PGP encryption program]" 0 58 (face default)) "^From:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu by medg (4.1/TOC-1.2S) id AA12637; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:35:34 EDT Received: from goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:40:31 -0400 Received: by goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu (15.11/4.0) id ; Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:40:26 edt Message-Id: <9404181740.AA14071@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: Michael P. Frank's message of Mon, 18 Apr 94 12:22:52 EDT <9404181622.AA26738@luke> From: spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: mpf@medg.lcs.mit.edu Cc: spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: [defense fund for Paul Zimmerman & PGP encryption program] Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 13:40:26 edt Thanks for the message about PGP. I forwarded it to a couple of friends interested in PGP. I think I'm going to buy a copy of the Unix version. Let me know if you get one too and want to exchange messages. I'm getting the WIndows and Dos versions, so what the heck, if Steve Van Natta, the originator of the PGP defense email, gets 5 or more requests for it, I'll do it too on his bulk buy. Nearly 15 years ago, when No Such Agency started surpressing crypto papers, I vowed to someday have public key [that may have been later than the surpression efforts] and send everyone messages like "hi" cryptoed. Now I have my chance. later that night, I researched the net.newsgroups and posted it to talk.politics.crypto and comp.org.eff.talk. We'll see what the Net does...in terms of hard support [trans: Money and orders]. I would ordinarily not have bothered you, but in the AI Lab climate, I knew you'd know someone - and you were the only one +noah at FSF that I sent to inbuilding... Keep on learning, Spiker (Spike R. MacPhee) Master SF Historian, DP Research Company Eddresses: spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu, spiker@io.com (Illuminati Online) Veeddress: Science Fantasies, 288 W. Challenger St (SE corner of Escher & Challenger), Freegate, Metaverse, Illuminati Online (metaverse.io.com 7777 for telnet access from Internet) ------------------------------------------------------------------- From spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu Mon Apr 18 17:31:57 1994 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] ["424" #("Mon" 0 3 (face default)) #("18" 0 2 (face default)) "April" #("1994" 0 2 nil 2 4 (face default)) #("17:36:56" 0 8 (face default)) #("edt" 0 3 (face default)) #("spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu" 0 21 (face highlight)) #("spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu" 0 21 (face highlight)) #("<9404182136.AA16621@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu>" 0 43 (face default)) "7" #("Re: [defense fund for Paul Zimmerman & PGP encryption program]" 0 62 (face default)) "^From:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu by medg (4.1/TOC-1.2S) id AA13080; Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:31:56 EDT Received: from goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:37:02 -0400 Received: by goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu (15.11/4.0) id ; Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:36:56 edt Message-Id: <9404182136.AA16621@goldman.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: mpf@medg.lcs.mit.edu, spiker@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: [defense fund for Paul Zimmerman & PGP encryption program] Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:36:56 edt Re: the 1st Bank of Cyber... Wonderful, but be prepared to move fast after the thesis (and recovering from it :) ) or else it'll be the Hundred & First... Keep me posted. BTW, I just called Canter's bluff (the Green Card lawyer who bombed the Net) in news.admin.misc Gulp...but I was never a protestor in the 60s, so now I'm taking my shot... Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by medg (4.1/TOC-1.2S) id AA12754; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:33:40 EDT Received: from battle-creek (battle-creek.ai.mit.edu) by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for mpf@medg.lcs.mit.edu id AA04313; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:38:57 EDT Received: by battle-creek (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA02601; Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:38:56 EDT Message-Id: <9404181838.AA02601@battle-creek> From: cwitty@ai.mit.edu (Carl Witty) To: cwitty@ai.mit.edu, mpf@ai.mit.edu Subject: competition, in a sense, for the internet bank Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:38:56 EDT It's not really the same sort of thing, but http://marketplace.com/ has several stores that let you order stuff through a common account. They just use your credit card, though; and they don't take (in my opinion) nearly enough care with security. Carl From 72674.1134@compuserve.com Mon Apr 18 19:44:13 1994 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] ["515" "" "18" "April" "1994" "19:46:27" "EDT" "Steve Van Natta" "72674.1134@compuserve.com" #("<940418234626_72674.1134_FHP94-10@CompuServe.COM>" 0 49 (face default)) "18" "viacrypt pgp for unix" "^From:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil]) Return-Path: <72674.1134@compuserve.com> Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com by medg (4.1/TOC-1.2S) id AA13354; Mon, 18 Apr 94 19:44:11 EDT Received: from localhost by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.940406sam) id UAA10985; Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:00:17 -0400 Message-Id: <940418234626_72674.1134_FHP94-10@CompuServe.COM> From: Steve Van Natta <72674.1134@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:mpf@medg.lcs.mit.edu" Subject: viacrypt pgp for unix Date: 18 Apr 94 19:46:27 EDT >I'm interested in joining in with some other people to get bulk >discounts on ViaCrypt's PGP for Unix... (A friend forwarded a message >about it from you to me.) This message was originally intended for the Core Group elaborating the Network here at One World Productions. However, I've added you to the Unix list all the same and I'll be in touch again when we get enough interest for a considerable discount. (read: at least 5) :) Consider yourself on the list and thanx for your interest! Until, Van From cwitty@ai.mit.edu Thu Sep 29 03:30:27 1994 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["187" #("Thu" 0 3 (face default)) #("29" 0 2 (face default)) "September" #("1994" 0 2 nil 2 4 (face default)) #("03:45:29" 0 8 (face default)) #("EDT" 0 3 (face default)) #("Carl Witty" 0 10 (face highlight)) #("cwitty@ai.mit.edu" 0 17 (face highlight)) nil "4" #("Are you guys still interested in digital cash?" 0 46 (face default)) "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil]) Return-Path: Received: from life.ai.mit.edu by medg (4.1/TOC-1.2S) id AA06854; Thu, 29 Sep 94 03:28:29 EDT Received: from battle-creek (battle-creek.ai.mit.edu) by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for mpf@medg.lcs.mit.edu id AA06328; Thu, 29 Sep 94 03:45:31 EDT Received: by battle-creek (4.1/AI-4.10) id AA12209; Thu, 29 Sep 94 03:45:29 EDT Message-Id: <9409290745.AA12209@battle-creek> From: cwitty@ai.mit.edu (Carl Witty) To: mpf@ai.mit.edu, torrance@ai.mit.edu Subject: Are you guys still interested in digital cash? Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 03:45:29 EDT Here's a reference to an interesting paper: The full text is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.uni-hildesheim.de in /pub/publications/Sirene/publications, file BBCM1_94CafeEsorics.ps.